What's Eating Gilbert Grape

[sauron]

QUOTE (alienmem @ Sep 22 2015, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The cover is crap, ok. It is but dont you guys like the idea of having no text at all, no synopsis, no features, just artwork?
Ok the spine should have all the usual balony but its seems to me that all of the above is made fr people who arent fans of movies.
I mean everyone of you guys have seen a gazzilion covers, have made maybe hundreds of covers. How many tomes have you tooknthe tome to read the synopsis or the legal fine print? I know about me? Probably never. Maybe a couple of times the secial features, at most

Don't be so hard on yourself - we've all been at the stage you're at at the moment. Like I said before and Bazzah has said, take more time on what you're doing and you will see better results. I always suggest using filters sparingly and use them effectively, not just for the fun of it as when doing it for the fun of it can make it look amateur.

[ctaulbee]

For me the glaring things are the very different color palettes on the front, spine & back all three are very different and just clash with each other, there is no cohesion.

Also the front and back images are different in style, quality, effect, which also makes them clash, no matter what color or colors in this case, again no cohesion.

Using different fonts and/or styles for the title on the front and spine, I always find that looks odd.

The poor cut-out work on the back really makes the whole thing look even worse as it sends the message "I have spent no time on this at all."

I know all this is new to you Alien but to the rest of us this is a pretty old hobby that's been going on for years.

Lots of people have done minimal covers in the past, they have never proved to be popular, if they were everyone would be making them today and everything else would be the exception.

Something to keep in mind is this-- people who collect custom art tend to be quite selective on what they like.

[alienmem]

Ok. Maybe The back the halftone dots or whatever they're called are too much but this is the kind of thing I'm looking for.....Maybe use a pattern on the back where the guys aren't there. Something like this style. Oh and the blu-ray logo and Wb logo I'll replace them

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[ctaulbee]

The color is better now, at least it all matches, well almost...

This is what I was getting at, it's the attention to detail that you seem to miss, even on a simple cover like this with only a few elements.

That logo you added to the back, first it's kind of big and ill placed IMHO but given that, the big thing is it's white, nothing else white on the whole thing just it, see what I mean.

Also it's clean and sharp which is good I think but it makes the logos on the spine look to be even worse quality, than they already do on their own.

[sauron]

Now this is better! I personally think the noise effect is too much, reducing it so it's more subtle will give the cover a better feel I think.

I agree with C about the quality of the logos on the spine, they look low res compared to the one on the back you have added, I presume this one on the back is going to be placed somewhere else rather than just in the centre?

[Bunny Dojo]

QUOTE (alienmem @ Sep 22 2015, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Ok the spine should have all the usual balony but its seems to me that all of the above is made fr people who arent fans of movies.

Even a movie's biggest fan might not know its run time off hand. It's similarly unlikely that they've memorized every bar code in the event of cataloging their collection online. And, any fan can forget a film's composer, or even its director.

True, you can put as little as you like on a cover. But, keep in mind that the less there is to see, the more people will focus on the few elements that are there. So, everything would have to be immaculate.

Objectively, the Blu-ray logo and studio logo on the spine should be pixel-perfect. The front title treatment and spine title treatment should use the same font, if not the exact same style. Seeing a low-resolution logo accompanying a sparse cover makes the whole thing look rushed rather than minimalist (a "one bad apple spoils the bunch"-type situation).

Also, as you said, the Robocop steelbook may not need a synopsis because the images say it all. That's a valid point: you have the setting, the hero, and obvious nods to action. Unfortunately, What's Eating Gilbert Grape? is not such an easy sell. I have no idea what the movie is about, and, more importantly, I have no idea why you love the movie. If you can achieve that in one image and like the result, that's great. If not, still photos allow you to showcase more of your favorite scenes and characters. A critic quote allows you to hint at a film's strengths. And so on. Every element can be used as a way of presenting helpful information and/or honoring the film.

[alienmem]

Ok .I listened(by listen read all your opinions and I find them all valid..all of them). In order of response:

ctaulbee. Yes, In my post I said the blu ray logo and the Wb logo aren't well. I was thinking about putting however the logo the back has right in the middle but it does look outta place.

Sauron. It was not my intention on doing it but as ctaulbee said it does look off. and the effects I'll adjust to see if It get's better.

Bunnydojo. Ok. I'll put the credits in and the barcode. Yes I already said that the logos are gonna be replaced. One thing I do not know how to fixe is what basically bazzah did in his example. Take out the existing title on the front and put the one he used. I tried in quick mode (i remember using it for darkening an image) but now it comes out red when I fill in with black. maybe it has soemthing to do with tha filter effects( I know caulbee explained this once If it does apply).


So basically if the logos were right and I added the credits and barcode and a little synopsis or quote that conveys the story do you think what I have is rescueable?

[sauron]

QUOTE (alienmem @ Sep 22 2015, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Ok .I listened(by listen read all your opinions and I find them all valid..all of them). In order of response:

ctaulbee. Yes, In my post I said the blu ray logo and the Wb logo aren't well. I was thinking about putting however the logo the back has right in the middle but it does look outta place.

Sauron. It was not my intention on doing it but as ctaulbee said it does look off. and the effects I'll adjust to see if It get's better.

Bunnydojo. Ok. I'll put the credits in and the barcode. Yes I already said that the logos are gonna be replaced. One thing I do not know how to fixe is what basically bazzah did in his example. Take out the existing title on the front and put the one he used. I tried in quick mode (i remember using it for darkening an image) but now it comes out red when I fill in with black. maybe it has soemthing to do with tha filter effects( I know caulbee explained this once If it does apply).

So basically if the logos were right and I added the credits and barcode and a little synopsis or quote that conveys the story do you think what I have is rescueable?

Everything is rescue-able, you're only limited by your imagination and ability.

Why not recreate the image you have used on the front with some high resolution images of the two guys and then you will then be able to use a font you think works for the TT?

[alienmem]

QUOTE (sauron @ Sep 22 2015, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Everything is rescue-able, you're only limited by your imagination and ability.

Why not recreate the image you have used on the front with some high resolution images of the two guys and then you will then be able to use a font you think works for the TT?

I'll try to find them. I have the blu ray so If they're not on the net I'll get them from my PC.


But sincerely, Imagine the cover without the logos and the titles...doesn't it look good?Just atalking about the art? Maybe it's too fuzzy on the back and you can't see well their faces..but the overall conception( not to be confused with inception! lol)

I know it needs other things.

[sauron]

QUOTE (alienmem @ Sep 22 2015, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I'll try to find them. I have the blu ray so If they're not on the net I'll get them from my PC.

But sincerely, Imagine the cover without the logos and the titles...doesn't it look good?Just talking about the art? Maybe it's too fuzzy on the back and you can't see well their faces..but the overall conception( not to be confused with inception! lol)

I know it needs other things.

Honestly it all comes down to personal taste, me personally I think it would look better how all other covers are designed - for it to be minimalist, it's got to be something special to really stand out I think.

Again, that's just my personal opinion though.