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Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:12 pm
by JollyRoger
Well, I just think it all suxx. I don't have any friends! So where does that leave me?
And if I did have friends they sure as hell never vote for my covers anyways - I never win anything! So, janne - don't sweat! I'm totally with you bro
I would recommend that everyone decide to vote for my covers from now on!
:hypnotise:
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:22 pm
by jcdesign
JollyRoger wrote:And if I did have friends they sure as hell never vote for my covers anyways - I never win anything! So, janne - don't sweat! I'm totally with you bro
I would recommend that everyone decide to vote for my covers from now on!
I always vote for you, you know it!
ok, there, a bit different views here, but I have reacted to something! Why can not we vote for our own contribution? It is well not be possible. :P
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:30 pm
by batboysmatboy
People vote for many different reasons. The one I really hate is "Oooooooo, shiny", but I digress.
If you make the vote public, then you see if your friends voted for you or not, you see who vote for themselves, and you create a bunch of hard feelings.
How are you going to feel after slaving to create the perfect cover (in your eyes), and then not only are you loosing in the vote, but you see people who you thought felt you were a great designer voting for a cover you felt wasn't as good as yours. That my friends is an accident waiting to happen.
So why open a can of worms that could stay closed. Making the vote public may discourage voting. Some may feel they have to justify their vote to someone later on. And on the flip side, someone who didn't vote because they really couldn't choose between some outstanding covers may just vote for anyone so it shows they voted.
In life, best doesn't always win and the worst doesn't always loose. It is something we all live with.
I personally feel things are different for creative people. There is no harsher critic of your work then yourself. People can tell you how great it is, but if you don't feel it is good, then all the praise in the world will not change your mind. You all create your art for the sake of doing it and not for the accolades. If you create a work of art you are happy with, that's all the praise you need (you know it's true). And if you get an award for it, just icing on the cake.
Edit
As I am a 2 finger typist, there were a couple of posts while I was typing this. So I would just like to say, "I'm your buddy JR"
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 3:51 pm
by bazzah
I am just shocked that batboysmayboy always types so much, and only uses two fingers!!
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 4:43 pm
by batboysmatboy
Fastest 2 finger typist in the west
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 4:45 pm
by LittleCoolDude
batboysmatboy wrote:Fastest 2 finger typist in the west
LMAO - I believe it now!
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 4:58 pm
by archef
He not only types fast... He thinks fast too!!
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 4:58 pm
by mikezomaar
I think is right the way it is now.
I can't really imagine that a lot of designers would ask friends to vote for them.
And if one wants to win and asks friends to vote to win, that is really sad imho.
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:03 pm
by JollyRoger
I always ask. No one ever listens
Note to Fubster: This smilie doesn't work!!!! :hypnotise:
Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:05 pm
by Bunny Dojo
JollyRoger wrote:Well, I just think it all suxx. I don't have any friends! So where does that leave me?
You joke, but I think that's why it took me 7 years or whatever before I was able to luck my way into winning a cover contest.
I think no matter what setup is in place, a certain portion of the votes are either going to come from friends who recognize your work or even who you (regardless of rules) ask to log on and vote. Having the vote devolve into a popularity contest is inherit in any voting system.
For that matter, compare the number of votes to the number of downloads (or even views) each cover gets. My design for
Spartacus that won two months ago still only has 18 total downloads, last month's
The Informant 30, including my own.
Even if you were to limit voting to contributors only, then limit it to those who have downloaded the full covers, you would still have biased votes with everyone's bar code, color, template, and other styling eccentricities.
It's an imperfect system no matter what. That's why the only way to play it is to make sure you enjoy the actual process regardless of the results. If you win, you win.
(Not that I'm not prone to a bit of "Can you believe these people?" every time I lose.
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