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WeakySneasel wrote:QUOTE (WeakySneasel @ Jan 17 2017, 05:57 AM) Kernie's work is fantastic, I love seeing it, just like the rest of you - it's stunning, count me as a big fan.

Is it just me that thinks it generally makes the characters look dumb-a$$?

Take the 'keyart' Kernie recently posted: do these look good with multiple characters and their silly, over-the-shoulder glances?

Anyway, great work Kernie - no surprise to see it's so popular.
Thanks? I'm glad you love my work despite not liking the dumb-a$$, silly custom keyart... :D

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I think the reason this type of keyart proves popular, not just in custom covers but in retail covers and movie posters, is because it's all about the characters. People connect to and fall in love with the characters in movies and TV shows and that's what gets them emotionally invested in the story.

I agree that it might not be the most "artistic" layout in the history of graphic design, and it is wildly overused, but it is popular because I think people like seeing the characters that they enjoy on their movie posters and DVD covers. The casual moviegoer often chooses to watch a movie based on a familiar actor or actress who stars in the film, so it makes sense to highlight them on the cover.

Are the characters on my keyart all looking in different directions? Absolutely. Are they lined up in a rather conventional "flying-V" pattern? Yup. Does it tell the viewer much about the film's story or plot? Nope. These are all problems that I will admit about my own work and I'm actually agreeing with your criticisms.

However, it's a pattern I noticed that I was starting to develop across a number of covers and people seemed to be liking this style, so I continued it. Now, it's about creating consistency across a number of covers within the series. As posted above, all of the Marvel/Netflix shows share a similar style of keyart. That type of consistency is much harder to achieve when creating a less-conventional, more "artistic" and "creative" layout or arrangement.

It's also harder to achieve when you're not in control of what types of images or resources are made available. Believe me, if I had an unlimited supply of high-res poses of each actor for every film and TV show that I make a cover for, along with the time and patience, I might have more options to make something more inventive. But I'm working within the confines of the materials available, and this "flying-V" format seems to work well with the types of images that the studios release.

So while I share Bazzah's curiosity about why you chose to make these complaints in a thread for artwork that you claim to love but also hate, I do appreciate the opportunity to explain a little bit more about my process and the reasons I have for making the type of keyart that I do.

But let's get back on topic and keep telling me how great I am... :banrock: :banrock: :banrock:

P.S. Just to be a friendly jerk, I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that All the Kings Men, Goodfellas, and Swordfish all use a similar "group montage" image on their front covers... and these are your covers!! The layout is practically unavoidable! :D :D
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Touché :cool:
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Kernie wrote:QUOTE (Kernie @ Jan 17 2017, 08:47 AM) But let's get back on topic and keep telling me how great I am... :banrock: :banrock: :banrock:
You're great!

Personally I think the effort you put into each cover is grossly overlooked by most casual observers who miss the attention to detail that you bring to all aspects of each and every cover, from custom titles to selecting the right colors, lighting you name it and it's in there.

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Hello Kernie,

Please accept my apologies if my post came over as a complaint, it wasn't what I intended - I think your work is fantastic; I'm really sorry if it was misinterpreted. I think this style works particularly well with comic-book or superhero work, and I'd be proud to have your stuff on my shelf. I made my point really clumsily and I certainly didn't intend to suggest you should do better. And, please, be assured the dumb-a$$ comment definitely wasn't aimed at your work; merely the silly looks this type of studio poster sometimes produces. Could I have another more considered attempt at what I had intended to say?

Looking at your Wolverine cover, I really like both versions. I agree the second one is an improvement and I think the additional characters work. What I meant was: if you'd shown two alternatives - one with just Hugh Jackman, and one with all of them - I'd download the one with just him on the front. The multi-character one looks really good, and nobody is ever going to agree with every design choice any of us make anyway. It's just my personal preference is for the less is more thing and would choose an option with him alone on the front, if it were available - I think I'd have preferred this to the montage. I hope you understand what I mean.

As for me using montages, sometimes that's about my lack of talent (and software) and having to settle for posters because it's often all I can do. The only defence I'd make to this is the same argument you use for using several recognisable characters, which is that choosing iconic poster art for mine, where I can, is intended to give those same reminders.

In other words, although I foolishly neglected to mention the Wolverine cover directly (on reflection this was not clever) my intention was to comment directly on that cover. I was a little upset earlier when I realised my comment had apparently been misinterpreted and seemed to cause defensiveness, and reading it back I can sort of see why. I wasn't trying to rally people against your better judgement, I merely wondered if other members liked less on their covers too. Sorry for being so clumsy. All I can do now is hope it didn't cause too much offence and humbly beg your forgiveness and ask for your understanding.

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QUOTE Personally I think the effort you put into each cover is grossly overlooked by most casual observers who miss the attention to detail that you bring to all aspects of each and every cover, from custom titles to selecting the right colors, lighting you name it and it's in there.[/quote]
I know how much effort goes into even my simple stuff, so I can assure you all, I'm completely in awe of what some of you put out, I promise.
Kernie YOU'RE GREAT!
I have over 30 years experience in presenting technical artwork, although, cover design is a pretty new thing for me.

I marvel at the artwork some of you are putting together - I do not have the skill (or software) to compare or compete with.

Still, even if you're not a fan of my more simplistic design approach, or dislike my design choices, I still hope you can offer me constructive comments.

Thank you...
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Would you kindly remove your hand!!! :razz:
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ctaulbee wrote:QUOTE (ctaulbee @ Jan 17 2017, 02:15 PM) Personally I think the effort you put into each cover is grossly overlooked by most casual observers who miss the attention to detail that you bring to all aspects of each and every cover, from custom titles to selecting the right colors, lighting you name it and it's in there.
Thanks, buddy! I do feel that some of the more subtle details go unnoticed when I'm not pointing them out in a step-by-step WIP thread, but I certainly appreciate those who take the time to spot things like custom TTs, masking, color choices, etc. Knowing that some folks will scrutinize my work (in a good way, of course) is what pushes me to make everything as perfect as possible. I rarely achieve it, but I always strive for it. :D
WeakySneasel wrote:QUOTE (WeakySneasel @ Jan 17 2017, 02:27 PM) Please accept my apologies if my post came over as a complaint, it wasn't what I intended - I think your work is fantastic; I'm really sorry if it was misinterpreted.
No offense taken, WeakySneasel... as I said, it gave me an opportunity to explain some of my reasoning. :D

You're absolutely right... the "flying-V" arrangement and posters with giant, floating heads are very clichéd, but I wanted to elaborate that there are reasons for it. A movie poster that clearly features the actors often does better at the box office than one that is a bit more conceptual and abstract. It's unfortunate in some cases, but it's how casual moviegoers usually think. So studios keep churning out the same type of posters, because it's what sells tickets.

For me personally, my group montages are done for consistency. In the case of The Wolverine cover, I understand that a single image of Hugh Jackman might be preferable than the group montage. However, I had made group montages for the other 7 films in the X-Men series, so I wanted to keep it consistent with those designs (despite the fact that Wolverine was the only actor that the studio promoted as being in the film).

I think consistency in design is one of the main things that brings people to the world of custom covers. Retail covers are all over the place sometimes, varying designs from film to film within the same franchise. I know a lot of people (myself included) whose OCD can't abide when all three films in a trilogy have inconsistent spine designs. I think what attracts a lot of people to customs is the consistency that most designers use when creating a series or collection of customs.

The other great thing about the world of customs is that hopefully someone out there has designed something that meets each individual's preference. Some people like yourself would prefer a solo Wolverine cover, others might prefer the group montage. I certainly don't take it personal if someone prefers a different design to my own.

All the best. - Kernie
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QUOTE I think consistency in design is one of the main things that brings people to the world of custom covers. Retail covers are all over the place sometimes... I know a lot of people (myself included) whose OCD can't abide when all three films in a trilogy have inconsistent spine designs...[/quote]
Absolutely 100% get it. It's precisely why I started doing covers too; precisely why mine all have a set format; precisely why I'm here; and precisely why everyone loves your series so much, even if not necessarily every aspect, every time. And for what it's worth, I have just bought myself the X-men series with some Christmas Amazon vouchers and your covers will be going on as soon as I get around to downloading them.
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I have over 30 years experience in presenting technical artwork, although, cover design is a pretty new thing for me.

I marvel at the artwork some of you are putting together - I do not have the skill (or software) to compare or compete with.

Still, even if you're not a fan of my more simplistic design approach, or dislike my design choices, I still hope you can offer me constructive comments.

Thank you...
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Kernie is the main reason I joined the site! Really love all the comic book covers. Hey Kernie, any chance of a Batman Brave and the Bold Season 3 Blu Ray cover??
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The reason Kernie hasn't made a Season 3 cover is because Season 3 hasn't been release on Blu Ray commercially :)
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