The Avengers: The Ultimate SHIELD Archive

[Kernie]

QUOTE (graves0777 @ Apr 4 2012, 02:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Don't know if any of these images will help you, not sure how you will do the back, but definitely cool wallpapers none the less.

These may actually be useful... thanks, graves!!

QUOTE (halo99 @ Apr 4 2012, 06:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

excelente cover kernie as always coud you make a version with spine size of viva elite 15.8 cm thank you

I'll keep that size in mind...

[Kernie]

Update...

Cap has legs! Thor's lightning is a bit bolder. Added a muzzle flash to War Machine's shoulder cannon. I also pulled the "camera" back a little bit on the keyart to give a wider scope of the action...

Thoughts???

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[Nightrider]

Thanks kernie I also would be interested to see the raw elements and the work you have done on them.
Also thanks about the lightening for THOR, I think it looks great, not over the top but more than enough that you know it's there, what it is and what it's doing, cheers

Um I might be wrong here, and probably am and that's ok, but Caps leg in front of Iron Man looks just a little toed in to me, but I might be seeing it not right, I do at times tend to see things other people don't, and sometimes people see things I either don't or can't so I could be way off there anyway. No probs

But my main thoughts are that this is looking top notch, those glows in the background are a real winner, loving it.

Cheers mate

PS, I meant to say earlier thank you for the helmuts, I'm very happy to see them!

[Darksaber]

Could you show a closer look at the area around Iron Man's Hand and caps shoulder, because it looks like Iron Man's hand should be over caps shoulder, I dunno the perspective just seems a little off due to Iron Man stretching his hand out.

Also Caps Shoulder/Arm (right as you look at it left from his perspective) looks a little too bulky, I know you've moved his shield, so you would have had to clone his arm, but I think it should taper it in a bit more

like this

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Pity there isn't yet a good shot of agent coulson as he plays a major/minor part in most of the films

[Kernie]

Darksaber... here's the closer look at Iron Man/Cap. I agree that it's a little off, but thinking about how the group would be arranged if they were all posed together for the shot, I think it'd be even more awkward if Iron Man had his hand over Cap's shoulder, almost as if he's invading Cap's "personal bubble." I'll fix Cap's right shoulder as well...

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@ Nightrider... what do you mean by "toed in?" Please explain. I agree that Cap's legs aren't perfect, but unfortunately, I don't have a lot of options to choose from. I think the right leg looks fine, but the left has a weird bend to it.

I'll try to post raw elements soon. There's a lot of them!

[Darksaber]

Hmmm... would it work better if you make cap a slight bit bigger and move the rest of the crew to the left and right a little, I think that way Iron man's hand would be clear of caps shoulder

Oh can I compliment you on Iron Man and Thor's Helmets as you say we know who is behind the mask

[Nightrider]

I know your options are limited in the resource area for Caps legs, right leg does look fine , it was the left I was referring to, that slight bend.
What I mean by toed in is that his foot (while we can't see it) is turned in towards his body and he has twisted his hips back a bit in the process, resulting in that slight bend of his leg, over here when we see that we say they are toed in cause when they turn the foot the toes point across the body and they tend to twist the hip a bit too which seems to give that slight bent look of the leg.
Hope I've explained it ok and not confused you more, sorry if I have.

[Kernie]

QUOTE (Darksaber @ Apr 4 2012, 09:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hmmm... would it work better if you make cap a slight bit bigger and move the rest of the crew to the left and right a little, I think that way Iron man's hand would be clear of caps shoulder

I'll see what I can do...

Do you want to drive?

I shrunk Iron Man's hand a little bit to try to make it work a bit better, I'll show that on the next update. But remember... Iron Man's hand looks bigger because of the one plate that goes over his hand (it's what's causing a sort of "webbed-finger" appearance). If you look at the actual fingers and then consider that it's a rather thick metal glove that needs space for a human hand to fit inside, his hand would be slightly bigger than a normal person's anyway. Just something to keep in mind, although I do agree there's something weird going on around Cap's shoulder.

Problem is, this is a rubrix-cube of a design... slightly shifting one thing can throw off several others, which is why I'm hesitant to enlarge Cap and shift a few people around...

[Darksaber]

QUOTE (kernie82 @ Apr 4 2012, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Do you want to drive?

Quinjet? Helicarrier? Iron Man suit? errrr YES

No your right I understand your reasoning regarding the hand/glove and web effect, I just think that moving Cap to just clear IM's hand might look better, I don't think there is any need to rescale the hand

[Kernie]

Here's some tiny little fixes that I think address the issues with Iron Man hand, Cap's left leg, and Cap's right shoulder...

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