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How is it possible to clone with out leaving it look like there are lines where you cloned? Like on Bazzah's W.I.P. for John Tucker is an example of great cloning (under the hand on the front, and example of bad cloning (which I am refering to) can be seen in the rejected folder Harry potter rejected under the front title


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How is it possible to clone with out leaving it look like there are lines where you cloned? Like on Bazzah's W.I.P. for John Tucker is an example of great cloning (under the hand on the front, and example of bad cloning (which I am refering to) can be seen in the rejected folder Harry potter rejected under the front title


Hmmm........

Difficult to describe, really.

Basically, you simply use your eyes, and watch what you are doing!

Cloning, essentially, is picking up a section of image, and using that as a "stamp" to either simply obliterate a part of an image you don't want, or to rebuild part of an image that is simply not there (as in Bazzah's cover).

You have control over the size and the sharpness of the brush, and you have control over what part of the image you are gonna "pick up" to use as the clone. The length of time the clone brush is pressed will also have an effect on how the width and depth of the "clone".

The combination of these elements - plus your eyes(!) should enable you to achieve perfect cloning.

When building images, the eraser tool may well need to be used too. You are effectively painting with the "picked up" images. So careful choice of colour and shape are very important.

If you look at THIS cover, that I did a long time ago, the whole of the bottom "blurry lights" that go from the front to the back at the bottom were created by cloning, and on THIS cover, most of the upper part of the guy's helmet on the front was obliterated by text, and had to be rebuilt.

So that's the long answer......

The short answer is simply to practice!

Hope that helps! (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif) (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumb.gif)
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QUOTE(user name @ Nov 3 2006, 10:17 PM) [snapback]32461[/snapback]
How is it possible to clone with out leaving it look like there are lines where you cloned? Like on Bazzah's W.I.P. for John Tucker is an example of great cloning (under the hand on the front, and example of bad cloning (which I am refering to) can be seen in the rejected folder Harry potter rejected under the front title


No secret just a lot of patience and getting familiar with the clone tool. Selecting the right source point, changing the brush shape, size, rotation, hardness and density nearly every stroke is not unusual. Work slow and don't try to clone over a clone error, undo instead and don't go forward until your happy with it.
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FB, Bazzah or anyone else who want to answer do you use a graphics tablet (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif)
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I've also noticed that alot of times its better to use a softer clone brush than a hard one. If you need it to fill in more you can just click a few times in the same place. Makes it easier to blend it into the rest of the image.
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Thanks for all the hints. Also, FB that Flyboys cloning is perfect, never would have known if you hadn't said anything, even now you can't tell it was cloned


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QUOTE(Tropical Storm @ Nov 4 2006, 12:37 AM) [snapback]32480[/snapback]
FB, Bazzah or anyone else who want to answer do you use a graphics tablet (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif)



Nope - just an optical mouse (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/unsure1.gif)


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those funny lines you refer to happen when you clone over a cloned area. filmboy gave good advice...practice.
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FB, Bazzah or anyone else who want to answer do you use a graphics tablet (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif)


Same here. Just a cheap Logitech cordless mouse. (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif)
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QUOTE(filmboy @ Nov 4 2006, 02:10 PM) [snapback]32509[/snapback]
Same here. Just a cheap Logitech cordless mouse. (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif)

I remember when I had a cordless.... I was like this: (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/head_hurts_kr.gif) aaaall the time.
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QUOTE(B3ARStyLE @ Nov 4 2006, 01:30 PM) [snapback]32512[/snapback]
I remember when I had a cordless.... I was like this: (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/head_hurts_kr.gif) aaaall the time.


Hey - never had a problem! (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif)

It's a real cheap one - costs about 6 from my local wholesaler. Runs for bloody months on a couple of AA batteries!

Spot on for me! (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumb.gif)
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I read this and as i was in the middle of cloning something myself i thought i would knock this up I hope it helps (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/arms.gif)

The clone tool can be used several different applications (not just direct cloning).
When using the clone stamp tool you select a sampling point on the area you wish to to apply over another area. By selecting "aligned" in the options bar, you can re-use the most current sampling point...........no matter how many times you stop and start. When you deselect "aligned" you will use thee same sampled pixels each time.
For high detail cloning remember to ZOOM in and make sure you select a suitable brush (airbrushes and basic brushes take care of most cloning jobs)................also, experiment with the opacity and flow settings......you will get the hang of it in no time..................have fun (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/thumb.gif)

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