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post Sep 16 2006, 11:08 AM
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Been like a ghost here these last few days where is everyone?
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QUOTE(Skallywag® @ Sep 16 2006, 12:08 PM) [snapback]25888[/snapback]
Been like a ghost here these last few days where is everyone?


I'm sitting here waiting for some comp entries to come in (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif)
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well im here 'till next thurs,then i gotta go back work (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/eek5.gif)
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I had a death in the family this past week (My Uncle), and in true Irish fashion, the family and I have spent the last few days drunk as hell. My Uncle would expect no less from me. (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8834.gif)
Tomorrow I'm gonna up my Charlies Angels spanning spine set and a custom for BeerFest (If I feel like finishing the credits, that is (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8834.gif) )
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post Sep 16 2006, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(filmboy @ Sep 16 2006, 12:12 PM) [snapback]25889[/snapback]
I'm sitting here waiting for some comp entries to come in (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif)


Trouble is all the old hands will wait util the others are up to check out the standard (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/winking.gif) So expect a mad posting session on the closing day


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Thought your first answer was better (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/tongue2.gif)

QUOTE(donobieus @ Sep 16 2006, 12:59 PM) [snapback]25894[/snapback]
I had a death in the family this past week (My Uncle), and in true Irish fashion, the family and I have spent the last few days drunk as hell. My Uncle would expect no less from me. (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8834.gif)
Tomorrow I'm gonna up my Charlies Angels spanning spine set and a custom for BeerFest (If I feel like finishing the credits, that is (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8834.gif) )


Sorry for your loss. In honour of your uncle I too will go get drunk now (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8834.gif)
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Yes it has been very quite in here I have noticed a few people missing
So where is *Krafty*, Burnbabyburn and have not seen much on Sauron either
Perhaps we should write up a missing persons list

And Don sorry to hear about your Uncle passing just stay drunk mate help to ease the pain (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif)

Cheers (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif)
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also sorry to hear about your uncle donobieus ... I don't drink alcohol so drink one for me (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8834.gif)


and I edited my first post as it was typed in a moment of pissed offness..... (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif) and the last thing I need is FB telling me off...(IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/tongue2.gif)
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i done my fair share of drinking this week but then i never could pass up a bailey's on ice (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/drunk.gif)
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Sorry to hear your bad news Don. I will make sure I get well and truely pissed tonight (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)


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I dont know where everyone is, but they sure are not in the WIP. I'm gonna be frank. I dislike most of the stuff thats coming outta there. We are being way too soft on these covers. some of the stuff is technically terrible. logos oversized, specs innacurate, poor effects which do not fit the movie, etc, etc. I've made comments in the past only to be ignored. Maybe we need more Master Designers in there ripping these covers apart. and you new guys, take the advice! If your cover is technically lousy you should be told for your sake. It'll make you better, unless you're satisfied with mediocrity. I for one am not going to BS anyone. Sorry, this one was building up.

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QUOTE(Tropical Storm @ Sep 16 2006, 01:08 PM) [snapback]25897[/snapback]
Yes it has been very quite in here I have noticed a few people missing
So where is *Krafty*, Burnbabyburn and have not seen much on Sauron either
Perhaps we should write up a missing persons list

IM still here just that i am back at school now :(, i try and be as active as possible (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif) ,

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I'm alive, but sadly very busy at work at the moment and very less leisuretime for creating covers! (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/unsure1.gif)
Hopefully it will get better the next few days/weeks...


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I dont know where everyone is, but they sure are not in the WIP. I'm gonna be frank. I dislike most of the stuff thats coming outta there. We are being way too soft on these covers. some of the stuff is technically terrible. logos oversized, specs innacurate, poor effects which do not fit the movie, etc, etc. I've made comments in the past only to be ignored. Maybe we need more Master Designers in there ripping these covers apart. and you new guys, take the advice! If your cover is technically lousy you should be told for your sake. It'll make you better, unless you're satisfied with mediocrity. I for one am not going to BS anyone. Sorry, this one was building up.

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yay!!! go irrob... does this mean I can be completely honest from now on? obviously with a smile and advice following, I gave up helping as most didn't take the advice anyway (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif) (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/yellow.gif)
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yay!!! go irrob... does this mean I can be completely honest from now on? obviously with a smile and advice following, I gave up helping as most didn't take the advice anyway (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif) (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/yellow.gif)


'Bout time! it's Cruel to be kind time (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8834.gif)

It would also be nice to see some other Master Designers using the WIP, it's a good way for newbies to learn.
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QUOTE(Irrob @ Sep 16 2006, 02:17 PM) [snapback]25907[/snapback]
I dont know where everyone is, but they sure are not in the WIP. I'm gonna be frank. I dislike most of the stuff thats coming outta there. We are being way too soft on these covers. some of the stuff is technically terrible. logos oversized, specs innacurate, poor effects which do not fit the movie, etc, etc. I've made comments in the past only to be ignored. Maybe we need more Master Designers in there ripping these covers apart. and you new guys, take the advice! If your cover is technically lousy you should be told for your sake. It'll make you better, unless you're satisfied with mediocrity. I for one am not going to BS anyone. Sorry, this one was building up.

sorry about you uncle D



irrob i would be happy of your critique,but most of the time the wip i post only attracts the attention of 1 or 2 replies.it's nice to get the input from the master designers rather than your peers.maybe its because most of the stuff i do is old,and is less interseting than the latest releases?
i'll listen to any suggestions,maybe i wont follow all of them(i know your big on studio templates)but having someone telling me its wrong or needs changing is better than being ignored.


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QUOTE(Irrob @ Sep 16 2006, 02:17 PM) [snapback]25907[/snapback]
I dont know where everyone is, but they sure are not in the WIP. I'm gonna be frank. I dislike most of the stuff thats coming outta there. We are being way too soft on these covers. some of the stuff is technically terrible. logos oversized, specs innacurate, poor effects which do not fit the movie, etc, etc. I've made comments in the past only to be ignored. Maybe we need more Master Designers in there ripping these covers apart. and you new guys, take the advice! If your cover is technically lousy you should be told for your sake. It'll make you better, unless you're satisfied with mediocrity. I for one am not going to BS anyone. Sorry, this one was building up.

sorry about you uncle D



This is similiar to a thread I started at Gen but mine was more about basic quality issues as I got totally fed up with finding work that was being posted by paying members that wouldn't make it past the proving grounds there, and after more than 1500 views and 100 replies no true steps forward. The difference here is that it is the WIP section and so long as they accept and act on the comments made then the work should be good by the time it's upped to the gallery.

Things are getting worse over there but I suspect I shouldn't turn this into a slagging thread.

And as I said there, if you are going to post in public expect to be critiqued in public.

"...specs innacurate," that tickles me.
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The main problem here is we have bred an etiquette that if you dont like something then don't comment.

This has unfortunatly led to a state where many designers would rather not comment than have their critique misunderstood as simply not liking the style used to develop a cover.

Personally I'd prefer critique which is not confrontational, unfortunatly some, in a poor attempt at humour would rather slate work than help it develop or worse stiffle others creativity by forcing there concept of what should be on a cover onto other developing designers.

There is no simple answer here but I'd suggest we all use the WIP a lot more, it's a dying area if the site which has always been the biggest draw to the site for me (even morethan the gallery) the Designer groups to help others see how their covers are developed and the newer member to learn.
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I have no problem with my work being critiqued if the critique is not forcing their idea of what a cover should look like onto me (as skally said) and that the critique is backed up with suggestions to help.

Not just "crap".... (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/winking.gif) *cough* kylumi

I also like to try and help, I have spent alot of my time helping people on here, in WIP, in PM's and also on MSN... and I have no problem doing that as long as they listen...they don't have to do it..but at least listen...or dont ask.

I have given up helping in WIP to some degree as alot of people just don't listen anyway...

I would want people to be honest in my own WIPs, but helpful.
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I always use wip to get an idea of what is liked or not. I know its my cover but if i'm making it for the site i want everyone to like it too. Otherwise theres really no point to me. I would like to say though that there is a reason there are different levels of members here,a contributors stuff probably won't look as good as some of the master's stuff,that kind of goes without saying. I'm not saying stuff should be uploaded with errors but if something starts out that way in WIP it should kind of be expected. As to people not taking advice,yeah thats possible i'm sure,i always try to listen to everyone when its possible. Sometimes i just don't have the skills to make a change someone suggests. In those situations actual instructions would be good instead of just "change that/fix this".
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