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post Sep 15 2006, 12:13 PM
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Sorry...I know this is a long post...but bear with me (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/winking.gif)

I have been wandering aimlessly around other cover sites recently, and its quite interesting that in each one there are people who have big discussions saying that THAT particular cover site is the best and can't be beaten etc etc...

Some of those are big sites...and some of those are small sites. Alot of the arguments are..."we have the best quality covers"...some are "we have the biggest range of covers".... and despite it being only about 6 people discussing it sometimes it has also been said "we are a great community".

I personally don't believe the "quality" argument, because there is also the issue that not everyone likes the same type of covers... and what standard of quality do they mean?

I definitely do not like the "quantity" argument because you can have a gallery full of shite covers...this does noone any good.

I like the "good community" argument because thats something that attracts people to post not only their comments but then their covers, but what constitutes a good "community"??

Obviously they are deluded as we all know Hires is the best in all aspects, even though we have FB (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/bootyshake.gif)

What are your thoughts on these arguments?
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post Sep 15 2006, 01:11 PM
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I haven't seen this agrument recently posted at the "big four" that I visit frequently. But this has been brought up in the past. The way I see it, there is no one best. Just leaders in certain areas. Obviously Hirescovers has taken the lead in a number of specific areas among the sites I visit (I wont mention cause it's all subjective), but I won't go as far as saying "the best" cause I cannot quantify that statement. Too many cover sites out there.
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post Sep 15 2006, 01:18 PM
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I didn't say it was posted recently (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/winking.gif)

I also don't know the "big four" as I am new to cover scene sites in some aspects ... I just read posts in the ones I go to and find some interesting (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8834.gif)

I also find it interesting how peoples opinions differ and the reasons they differ... I find people arguing even though they are actually agreeing with each other just in different ways... (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8834.gif)

There are a couple of sites I have been on that I know are quite "popular" that I have thought.... what a bunch of crap... but I have heard people rave about them... as you said... "subjective"

There were alot of topics I found interesting on them but this is one I wanted other peoples opinions on (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8834.gif)

I think Hires is the best for lots of different reasons and they may not be the reasons that other people think its the best.

Too many people sitting on too many fences IMO.
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Conversely one might argue this is crap too. Personally the us against them philosphy hurts rather than helps. There is a cover community as a whole, then there's the site communities. The big four ( hirescovers, RTC(Dagon), R1DB and generetic) indirectly play ball by right of the members that travel between them. I would like to see more inclusion, less alienation though. That is, cooperation beteween the big sites from the top-down in a kind of consortium which not only increases traffic, but protects the artists work, which is the single biggest issue for me. I'm proud to sit on may fences. I'm privy to alot of great covers and great styles out there.
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I agree irrob ... this isn't an us against them, and this was not and is not an argument ... just my personal preference...

This is not something that has been discussed on this site, it has been discussed on other sites and I found it interesting... this whole "our site is the best" was their words not mine.

When I say hires is the best... I find its the best for me...

I have never downloaded covers from here or any other site so to be completely honest the covers don't really interest me anyway other than the skill that has been used to create them so I can learn from them.

I agree that to see more inclusion would be great.

so maybe while you are sat on the fences irrob you could build some gates into them?! (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/tongue2.gif)
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QUOTE(lulubelle @ Sep 15 2006, 10:06 AM) [snapback]25784[/snapback]
so maybe while you are sat on the fences irrob you could build some gates into them?! (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/tongue2.gif)


I try. (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif) Some of us do like ubl6612. kinda police the galleries in the sense that we identify the actual artist if they are not credited. I tend to contact the artist at the various sites directly and inform them as well (right Skally?). Our small part. Be nice for the admins of the big 4 to have "board meetings" to reduce some of the major issues such as "stealing" among the big sites. Baz is well known. Not much one can do about the seedy sites though. They wont play ball.
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For me... this is my place... but I think like most of the swedes i will go back to swecov if and when that site re-opens... i like the style here... i like the people here... i like the fact that most here give an honest opinion in wip and not just the kiss-ass thats-awesome-great-work reply... atleast for me in my creating i need to move on to the next level... i post on one other site of the "big four" even though im a member at the other 2 as well... i like hires the best... so this is where i post my work first... this is where if i had to choose only one place to post it would be... and as long as swecov is down and out of business...
this is my place for covers on the net.

my fav artists are all here... i could wish for more covers from some of them... some covers i see posted at other places but here... but thats a different discussion i think...
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QUOTE(Irrob @ Sep 15 2006, 03:52 PM) [snapback]25787[/snapback]
I try. (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/8824.gif) Some of us do like ubl6612. kinda police the galleries in the sense that we identify the actual artist if they are not credited. I tend to contact the artist at the various sites directly and inform them as well (right Skally?). Our small part. Be nice for the admins of the big 4 to have "board meetings" to reduce some of the major issues such as "stealing" among the big sites. Baz is well known. Not much one can do about the seedy sites though. They wont play ball.



yeah there are good guys and bad guys everywhere....Baz...whose that?? (IMG:http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/style_emoticons/default/winking.gif)
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No comment
i dont go to any other cover sites
I like this one the best
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