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post Nov 10 2018, 02:16 AM
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To everyone who's been waiting so patiently (and some of you not-so-patiently), I'm extremely happy (and relieved) to finally have this to share...

Attached File  avengers_iw_wip_001_watermark.jpg ( 400.78K ) Number of downloads: 9

[Sorry for the checkerboard watermarks, just trying to prevent dishonest folks from re-using these for their own nefarious purposes]

Rather than using the WIP thread to get feedback, I decided to wait and post something that was nearly complete. I had a very specific vision for this cover and wanted to try to see it through without second-guessing everything with WIP suggestions. Instead, I'm using WIP to show off some of the techniques that I ended up using.

With 28 characters (all of whom appear in the film in major roles, cameos, or post-credit scenes), this design was a hell of a Rubix cube that not only required recoloring every single character (more on that in a bit), but also had to adhere to a number of self-imposed rules that I set...

Here are some of the rules that I tried to follow when arranging all of the characters...

- The leads of the respective franchises (Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Star-Lord, Spider-Man, Black Panther, Dr. Strange) should be as close to center as possible
- Masked characters should be wearing masks (Iron Man, Spider-Man, War Machine, Black Panther). Exceptions for Star-Lord (only uses occasionally) and Cap (never wears mask in movie)
- Characters with the ability to fly should be flying (leaving room on ground for non-flying characters)
- The Guardians of the Galaxy should be separated to create a sense of "crossover" with the regular Avengers
- Iron Man and War Machine should be separated (similar armor designs)
- Black Panther characters should be separated (again, for the purposes of "crossover")
- Dr. Strange and Scarlet Witch should be separated (magic users)
- Vision and Scarlet Witch should be separated (couple) and placement should be symmetrical
- Hulk and Gamora should be separated (green skin)
- Iron Man, Spider-Man, Scarlet Witch, and Okoye should be separated (red color)
- Falcon and War Machine placement should be separated and symmetrical (Gray armored sidekicks with flying ability)
- Avoid putting too many characters with similar color schemes next to each other so that blobs of "red" or "green" don't start to appear

Not only was following these guidelines extremely difficult, but then it was a challenge to find the right type of images that would best represent each character and work together to create the ultimate hero "group shot." Creating a scene in which all characters are believably inhabiting the same physical space was very tough, as opposed to a montage style where size and position are far more flexible.

Once I found the right images, the original coloring of most characters simply wouldn't work, so I recolored every character using Gradient Maps down to the smallest details. Here are just a few samples of the recoloring work (again, sorry for the watermarks).
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Attached File  wip_loki.jpg ( 86.67K ) Number of downloads: 1


The other challenge was making this cover into an appropriate companion piece for my previous Avengers and Avengers: Age of Ultron designs. I think this makes a very nice triptych! (I'm already sweating at the notion of doing this all again for Avengers 4)
Attached File  avengers_trilogy.jpg ( 177.71K ) Number of downloads: 4


And for everyone screaming, "Where's THANOS?! He's essentially the main character!!" Yes, yes, I know... but the movie is called "Avengers" and I wanted the cover to be the Avengers (and allies). Rest assured, Thanos, the Black Order, the Outriders, and Chitauri will hopefully all appear on the back cover somehow... but I haven't gotten that far yet.

I also intend for this keyart to be used in my Shield Archive template, my MCU template, and of course, my Comic Book Collection template (in fact, I intend to rework the previous Avengers covers in my Comic Collection template to make all three films a bit more consistent).

Alright, I think I've rambled on about my design for long enough. My apologies, but many, many hours went into this, so I have a lot to say. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/8824.gif)

I'm not saying it's perfect, but I'm supremely proud of my work on this one. I hope this design was worth the wait (and I hope everyone understands why it took so long). Thanks for your interest! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/8824.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/8824.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/8824.gif)

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Phenomenal work! Well worth the wait. Can't wait to see what you do for the back.

I really wish I was as good at articulating thoughts like Curt below.

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I'm at a loss for words (Baz will have a comment on that I'm sure) it's more than just impressive, more like a revelation.

I'm always in awe at the level of detail you bring to your works, this is kind of a showcase of all that you do and do so well.

I was expecting it to be similar to the previous covers but you have really made something special here, not just with this one which is exceptional but the whole set is amazing.

The titles are awesome of course and everything else is spot on IMHO, I just love the harmony of it all.

Reading your post was a joy, I really like the detailed explanations you give for why you do things and the images too that illustrate your words.

I know that takes a fair amount of time and effort to do, so I want to acknowledge that and thank you for the time you spent doing the whole presentation and know it was not wasted, not on me at least.

I know the rest will be just as exciting as this, that is what makes the wait worth it in the end.

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Really amazed at the extent you've gone to, the recolouring is exceptional

I'm in awe (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_surprised.gif)

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This is why people simply love your work, Andrew.
Such attention to detail! Wow! I really enjoyed the 'before' and 'after' shots of the characters; really goes to show the amount of work that went into this - and this BEFORE you even began the big puzzle of putting all the characters into the same scene. Amazing.

You, Sir, is an exceptional artist! My hat's off to you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheers.gif)

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holy sh1t that look amazing out Phenomenal work! wowowwo wowwowowowowowow
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QUOTE (ctaulbee @ Nov 10 2018, 03:36 AM) *
I'm at a loss for words (Baz will have a comment on that I'm sure)


Yes, I do. You typed 192 words after that statement (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol.gif) And you are never lost for words.... ever.

But, back to the cover. Wow. This is how you do it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/8834.gif) I can personally appreciate the time it must have taken to build this masterpiece, as I too coloured and detailed each character. And there are a lot! But this just puts my effort to shame!! It really is amazing work, for so many different reasons (IMG:style_emoticons/default/8834.gif) And I loved reading your explanation for all of the individual details. It sounds like you spent as much time thinking on the design, as you did creating it. I can already see this being COTY 2018.


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Words cannot describe how great this cover is! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon_cool.gif)
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post Nov 11 2018, 02:18 AM
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Thank you very much to everyone who left a comment above! I can't express how much it means to me to read such wonderful compliments! I'm so glad that you like the design... it certainly took me long enough to get around to it and I'm glad it appears to have been worth the wait. It's a huge burst of encouragement to keep going and start on the back design for the villains!

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Amazing work, especially on the re-coloring. I know it must be hard fitting all these characters together and I know you said this was more of a showcase then WIP, but I still have to suggestions I want to mention (even tho you probably already have tried "everything" and this is what looked best). The first thing is that the two characters on the right end are quite bigger then the two characters on the left end site, especially Cobie. The second is a couple of poses that doesn't look so good in my opinion and that is Black Panther (because you can't see his left foot, so it looks like he has a very short upper body) and the guy with the long hair and machine gun on the left for Black Panther kinda looks like a dwarf (because you can't really see enough of his body and his pants is a different color then the body so can be hard to identify that it's his foot sticking out). These are very minor things tho and only my two cents, but just thought I should mention it.


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Thanks for the suggestions but I’m happy with this arrangement as is and don’t intend to make any changes. Like I said earlier, this design is like a Rubix Cube... changing one thing begins to affect other things.

I don’t see the problems you’re seeing... Panther’s hidden leg goes behind Rocket and behind the hill of rubble. His visible leg stretches in front of the rubble. It seems fine to me.

Winter Soldier is crouched down and his bent leg is visible enough to suggest his pose, in my opinion.

Also keep in mind that the “SHIELD Tech Border” from my previous covers isn’t on yet, which reduces the empty space around the edges and limits how much flexibility I have in moving things around. Heimdall and Maria Hill are that small in order to squeeze them inside the border. The fact that Nebula, Loki, and M’Baku are a bit bigger on the opposite side is fine with me.

I like that the arrangement isn’t perfectly symmetrical. Too much symmetry and the design can start to feel less natural.

Thanks again for the thoughts, but unfortunately this design is final. (I’ve also already sent it off to be printed on 27” x 40” stretched canvas for my home office wall, so I really don’t want to make any changes now!) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/8824.gif)



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No problem buddy, just keep on doing your thing, it turns out stunningly every time either way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


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simply amazing, i didnt realize how much could be done with off colored characters that's amazing, looking forward to the final product
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I'm speechless!! Just stunning! Stunning!!!
I honestly cannot wait to see this beauty finished with your MCU template! I'm gonna print this one for sure!

Splendid work my friend!


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About time! haha just kidding...

The amount of time and effort you put into your covers is what makes you the #1 designer here! I'm always in awe of your work and just wish I could spend as much time on my covers. The colouring work is just amazing!
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Here's an update on what I'm putting together for the back... Thanos, the Black Order, and his army of Chitauri footsoldiers and Outriders!
Attached File  avengers_iw_villains_001.jpg ( 687.85K ) Number of downloads: 1


Here's a look at some of the Photoshop character work and recoloring...

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For the Chitauri (and Outriders, not pictured), I cut out pictures of the Hot Toys Chitauri Footsoldier and Commander figures...

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To make the army, I used the Trapcode Particular plug-in in Adobe After Effects to make each Chitauri soldier into a particle, then duplicated those particles in a confined area to create a randomized crowd. I rendered out a frame from After Effects and inserted it into Photoshop. I use this technique a lot to quickly create a large mass of the same type of image. Not only does this work for crowds, but it can be applied to sparks, snowflakes, leaves, birds, bats, etc.

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I also made my own version of Thanos' circular "Q-Ship," since I couldn't find an actual hi-res image of the ship from this angle. I put it together from stock resources of "wheel space stations" like the ones seen in 2001: A Space Odyssey. I know it's not EXACTLY like the one from the movie, but I think it captures the essence of it well enough.

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I'm still hoping to add Chitauri Chariots and Leviathans flying in the sky (the keyart is a bit empty on the left and right sides of the Q-Ship). Can't seem to find good, clear images of the Leviathans from the type of angle I want... I may have to try screen-grabbing from the movie if I have to.

This keyart will be used in both the SHIELD Archive template and my MCU template, so it might be slightly modified when I finally insert it into the respective templates.

I hope you enjoyed this update... more to come... and Happy Thanksgiving! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/8824.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/8824.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/8824.gif)






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Awesome update Kernie, I knew it would be mind blowing and it certainly is.

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It's going to be awesome that's for sure Andrew (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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Wow. That really is stunning work. Happy thanksgiving Andrew!


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