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> A Quick, partially related poll
Did you know the default search searched on more than just the title field?
Yes [ 17 ] ** [80.95%]
No [ 4 ] ** [19.05%]
If you did, did you utilize that feature.
Yes [ 12 ] ** [57.14%]
No [ 5 ] ** [23.81%]
I already said I didn't know! [ 4 ] ** [19.05%]
Do you think we should modify the default search to make it ONLY look at the title?
Yes [ 8 ] ** [38.10%]
No [ 10 ] ** [47.62%]
Undecided [ 3 ] ** [14.29%]
  

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post Sep 22 2011, 04:11 PM
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I am working on the latest round of site updates, and I’d like your feedback. These updates affect many aspects of the site, but I’ve narrowed the scope of this discussion for simplicity (believe it or not)

The most noticeable change will be the gallery search – I want to have on-the-fly filtering available, very much like you see on retail sites. I think this mock-up picture explains it fairly well:
Attached File  Narrow_Results.jpg ( 415.07K ) Number of downloads: 17


Now, in order to add that feature, I obviously have to add some fields to the database, and contributors/designers must fill those fields in. Here is really where I am looking for some feedback – let me know what you think about this list, additions, modifications, subtractions, etc.

Title: This is not a new field, but worth mentioning at this point. We will start asking that the Title field contain the feature title ONLY. So, the name of the movie, TV show, whatever. (we can cover any exceptions, like collections, later)
Language: Again, this is not new, but in the future will be required, and controlled by a select list.
Region: Not required, but if the artwork has a region designation, then it should be specified (R1, R2, etc.)
Format: Again, not required, but if the artwork has a format designation, then it should be specified (NTSC, PAL)
Clean: A checkbox will be available to designate “clean” artwork...several of our label designers do this.
3D: A checkbox will be available to designate artwork specifically for the 3D version of a feature.
Season: For TV shows (I don’t think there is another application), specify the season.
Disc Number: For a Multi-disc collection, specify the disc number.

Note on field additions: I am not adding fields that would qualify the movie, so I’m not adding Rating, Year, Actors, etc.

Other notable changes for artists:

When you upload, you will no longer have to select from the horrendously long album list. I will let you choose from a small subset of categories, and then I will examine the title to determine the beginning letter (skipping “The” and “A”).

I will give you the ability to change multiple items on a single page, an option called “Edit My Items”. It will somehow incorporate some filters and sorts. My hope is that you will use this to help us update the 60,000+ items in the gallery.

Also, I will be available to make mass changes through the backend database by request. For instance, I know donger will ask me to search his items for “(clean)” in the title, mark the clean tag for those items, then remove the “(clean)” from the title. This type of thing will be easy enough for me to do.

Lastly, I am planning on making it easy on our artists for new items, with regards to these new fields. I will provide an option for the site to examine the filename on uploads, and set some of these new fields accordingly. For instance, if I find “(clean)” or “_clean_” in the filename, I will set the clean tag for you. We will cover this more later.

So, there it is…I am open to your feedback.


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post Sep 22 2011, 04:51 PM
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I like the updates i say go with it.
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post Sep 22 2011, 05:18 PM
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yellow.gif Cool updates...

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I will give you the ability to change multiple items on a single page, an option called “Edit My Items”. It will somehow incorporate some filters and sorts. My hope is that you will use this to help us update the 60,000+ items in the gallery.


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post Sep 22 2011, 06:19 PM
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I really like the new feature you're working on, but i'm not to sure adding new fields will work that well,
as it means al the covers should have the fields filled in, to work well ?

I would not have a problem with updating my cover with the correct info,
but updating 60.000 covers SHOCKED.gif

I was also wondering if it would be possible to upgrade the search box field, so that when you start typing a word
the search box will display titles that are in the galley with that word in a drop down list, like the search box on IMBD for example (without the pictures) 8824.gif




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post Sep 22 2011, 07:27 PM
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Really nice updates! The title selection in particular is excellent, as people will finally be able to find a movie like "Red," rather than giving up halfway through and crying themselves to sleep. ...not that I speak from experience. whistle.gif (sad.gif)

Out of curiosity, what does "Clean" mean in regard to labels? No legal text/logos?
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post Sep 22 2011, 07:29 PM
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Yes, updating 60,000 items is a daunting task, but somehow we will get there.

I like your idea a lot, voet. I might be able to incorporate it into this, once the titles are more uniform....but a few notes:

Long term, I plan on having a database of movies (or feature titles) on the site, and gallery items would be linked to that database instead of the title being hand-keyed, and your suggestion would work great at that point. But, like I said, I still might be able to make it work with more uniform titles...

One thing that I'm not sure if people realize though...the default search searches MORE than just the title field....it currently searches Title, Keywords, Owner Name, and Created By.

As I typed that, it made me think, since people don't REALIZE that's what it's doing (or so I think), then they probably aren't USING it that way, and in fact, it probably gives them erroneous results BECAUSE it's searching on fields they really don't want it to!

OK, I'd like to hear thoughts on that:
1) Did you know the default search searched on more than just the title field?
2) If you did, did you utilize that feature.
3) Do you think we should put it to a vote to make it the default search ONLY look at the title?

Hmm, maybe I'll add a poll 8834.gif


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post Sep 22 2011, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE (Bunny Dojo @ Sep 22 2011, 03:27 PM) *
Really nice updates! The title selection in particular is excellent, as people will finally be able to find a movie like "Red," rather than giving up halfway through and crying themselves to sleep. ...not that I speak from experience. whistle.gif (sad.gif)

Out of curiosity, what does "Clean" mean in regard to labels? No legal text/logos?

That's correct. Donger is one of 2 or 3 label designers who do more than one version of their labels, one having a "clean"designation. You can see donger's stuff here for a quick visual.


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post Sep 22 2011, 07:55 PM
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I like the new update ideas. It would also be nice to be able to upload more than five files at a time. I'm thinking of TV series that would have a cover and then 6-7 discs for that season. It would be nice to be able to upload them all at once.

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post Sep 22 2011, 07:58 PM
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Thanks for the feedback, TM - I'll look into that, I don't think it would be terribly difficult.


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QUOTE (voetzoeker @ Sep 22 2011, 02:19 PM) *
I was also wondering if it would be possible to upgrade the search box field, so that when you start typing a word
the search box will display titles that are in the galley with that word in a drop down list, like the search box on IMBD for example (without the pictures) 8824.gif


Fubs,
The search boxes on Replace the Case do this as well and I'd be willing to share that code if you want. Let me know 8834.gif

I like the update idea you're working on and agree that more uniform titles would help immensely moving forward. I've noticed alot of things in titles like region, spine size, etc. that would be better in separate fields in the db.


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post Sep 22 2011, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE (Bunny Dojo @ Sep 22 2011, 03:27 PM) *
Out of curiosity, what does "Clean" mean in regard to labels? No legal text/logos?



Bunny,

I started to call my labels without any logos such as region, rating, Studio, etc. "clean". I still leave the title and sometimes taglines, but none of the other stuff. The reasoning was I make NTSC labels and I know that other people in other parts of the world like my labels so I offer the "clean" version so they can customize them to their needs and regions. JR's crew over at CoverVision uploads customized versions of my stuff all the time, with my consent, of course. It's quite flattering. :-)

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post Sep 22 2011, 11:31 PM
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If you have 60,000 titles to "modify" I'll volunteer some time to help.

I love the on-the-fly filtering you're showing as an example.
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post Sep 22 2011, 11:38 PM
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I like the new ideas, but I'm very tired from a long day of work and I'll... fall... asleep... trying to read... all of this... right now... sleeping.gif sleeping.gif sleeping.gif


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post Sep 23 2011, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE (Dagon @ Sep 22 2011, 05:22 PM) *
The search boxes on Replace the Case do this as well and I'd be willing to share that code if you want. Let me know 8834.gif

Thanks, I'll be in touch if needed 8834.gif

QUOTE (Dagon @ Sep 22 2011, 05:22 PM) *
I like the update idea you're working on and agree that more uniform titles would help immensely moving forward. I've noticed alot of things in titles like region, spine size, etc. that would be better in separate fields in the db.

Ahhh yes, spine width, I forgot about spine width. For the most part, I can tell spine width from the overall dimensions, but I think I will show what what spine width was found so that the artist can verify it. And then I need to add that to my search options.

QUOTE (bluesnow @ Sep 22 2011, 07:31 PM) *
If you have 60,000 titles to "modify" I'll volunteer some time to help.

Thank you for the offer to help! We will probably take you up on that. 8834.gif


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post Sep 23 2011, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE (tmscrapbook @ Sep 22 2011, 03:55 PM) *
I like the new update ideas. It would also be nice to be able to upload more than five files at a time. I'm thinking of TV series that would have a cover and then 6-7 discs for that season. It would be nice to be able to upload them all at once.

This is a configuration option, set by member group. I set everyone to 10 (max allowed) except for subscribers and members, they are 5 and 3 respectively.


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I'm still getting all my specifications down on paper (a lot is still just in my head). I just wrote up the specs for some upload rules, so here they are. Once again, I'm still in the design phase on this, so if you have ideas, suggestions, etc, please feel free to speak up.

UPLOAD RULES:
You can specify default values for all new fields. In addition, some fields have an option for “examine filename”. When the site is looking for “codes” in the filename, each code must be bound by separators, either “(code)”, “_code_”, or “_code.jpg” (or other file extension).

Codes (note, none of the codes are case sensitive, so (ntsc) is the same as (NTSC) and (NtsC):
Language: Put the entire language string (correct spelling according to the list) between separators.
Region: R# or REGION#. The letter R followed by the region number, or the word region followed by the region number.
Format: NTSC or PAL.
Clean: The word CLEAN.
3D: 3D
Season: S# or SEASON#.
Disc Number: D# or DISC#.

One additional note: Selecting “Clean” (or specifying in the filename) will automatically clear Format and Region. So, for instance, if you upload NTSC and Clean artwork, you can set your default Format to NTSC. Then specify “(clean)” in the filenames of the clean versions. There would be no need to specify NTSC on the other versions, since that is your default. When the clean filename is parsed, it will set the clean flag, and set both Format and Region to blank.


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post Sep 23 2011, 01:41 AM
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I'm replying just so it doesn't look like you're talking to yourself, buddy!

I have no qualms about anything you're planning... it all sounds great!!! 8824.gif 8824.gif 8824.gif


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post Sep 23 2011, 02:53 AM
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hehe i'm still kinda unfimilar with the gallery features fubs, but it sounds like your gonna make them even better 8824.gif
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Gee thats a lot to read, can't I just search for something about it? babydance.gif


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I'm a simple guy, I just search a valid title, what irritates me is searching title specific, and getting results of all titles with a (part of the title) word from multiple covers thus showing unrelated covers, like search for Texas chainsaw massacre and getting every cover with the word texas in it and having to search through pages of unrelated covers,hehe...did that make sense, what am I replying too, hehe
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