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chefjoe
post Jan 6 2013, 11:43 AM
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Actually more of a question, but why are we not choosing Cover/ Label of the Year based upon COTM/LOTM winners or top 3 from each month???
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post Jan 6 2013, 11:54 AM
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Because we wanted it to be an opportunity for everyone, not just previous nominations.


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post Jan 6 2013, 01:02 PM
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... And the fact that many awesome covers gets uploaded without wip and/or Showcase threads. This way every cover gets a chance to get the attention (nomination) it truly deserves! winking.gif


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I'm with Joe (and add all HRC winners)..trying to nominate 12 out of all the covers from 2012!! Yikes..Seems like a major task for me anyways..

QUOTE (JollyRoger @ Jan 6 2013, 08:02 AM) *
... And the fact that many awesome covers gets uploaded without wip and/or Showcase threads. This way every cover gets a chance to get the attention (nomination) it truly deserves! winking.gif

And if this is the rational shouldn't all deserving covers from a certain month be eligible for cover of the month instead of just WIP's..Seems contradictory.


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post Jan 6 2013, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (invisigoth @ Jan 6 2013, 11:20 AM) *
And if this is the rational shouldn't all deserving covers from a certain month be eligible for cover of the month instead of just WIP's..Seems contradictory.

Just sayin.. whistle.gif
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post Jan 6 2013, 04:38 PM
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Due to popular demand everyone can nominate ANY cover as long as it was uploaded in 2012. Hope that satisfies everyone!


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post Jan 6 2013, 05:57 PM
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and no one thinks it crazy to expect one to go through an entire years worth of covers, determine if they were WIP's then nominate. Then why even have a COTM, I'm just saying they should be the best of the best already. If fairness is wanted, then as I said before allow the top 2 or three per month, but I for one am not going through an entire years worth of covers, knowing full well that one of the Master designers are gonna win anyhow.

Now, everyones gonna hate me again, but lets be honest guys, it's very uncommon for a non master to win anyhow. But before we get into that, the current winners have simply deserved the right to battle it out for COTY, it's just right.
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QUOTE (chefjoe @ Jan 6 2013, 06:57 PM) *
and no one thinks it crazy to expect one to go through an entire years worth of covers, determine if they were WIP's then nominate. Then why even have a COTM, I'm just saying they should be the best of the best already. If fairness is wanted, then as I said before allow the top 2 or three per month, but I for one am not going through an entire years worth of covers, knowing full well that one of the Master designers are gonna win anyhow.

Now, everyones gonna hate me again, but lets be honest guys, it's very uncommon for a non master to win anyhow. But before we get into that, the current winners have simply deserved the right to battle it out for COTY, it's just right.


I agree that it certainly makes voting easier. Picking from 12 or 24 covers (COTM plus the HRC winner) is easier than picking from 2400 - or more.

However, you also have to consider that there are months when several covers worthy of COTM are uploaded, and other months when COTM is a shoot-out between only 2 or 3 designs. Same with the challenge, with entries varying from 3 or 4 to well into double figures.

There may be a design that a member absolutely loved that just missed out on COTM, came 2nd in the challenge, or wasn't put through WIP. It'd be unfair to relegate that design - which may well be generally considered better than COTM and challenge winners in slower months - based on this, and equally unfair to ask the member to pick their COTY from a selection that doesn't include that design.

The fact of the matter is, if the July COTM was entered in August, and vice versa, only one of them could possibly come out on top. Equally, a cover that just missed out on one COTM contest may well have won it in another month. It's a matter of timing, not necessarily quality.

I think the way it's being done is the best way, in all honesty. I imagine several of my 12 picks will be COTM winners, but certainly not all of them. And I'm happy that I have that option.

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QUOTE (jwshaw89 @ Jan 6 2013, 02:14 PM) *
Equally, a cover that just missed out on one COTM contest may well have won it in another month. It's a matter of timing, not necessarily quality.

Excellent point, jw! This month's COTM comp alone has a dozen covers that are easily worthy of COTM (not saying that because one of them is mine, either), but only one can emerge victorious from the fight. Timing is everything.


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post Jan 6 2013, 07:48 PM
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well said. agree.gif agree.gif

HOWEVER, I myself found a couple or four more than worthy COTY - covers that DID NOT go through our WIP forum, and thus didn't have a shot of the monthly title.. If we make this competition into WIP COTY thats another story - BUT THIS competition is for ALL covers - and EVERYONE can nominate EVERYTHING!! arms.gif arms.gif Isn't that wonderful?. End of discussion. arms.gif arms.gif

Remember that not every cover that gets a nomination, moves on to the voting stage.

We really need to move on now winking.gif


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Got to agree with JR, there are loads of top class cover that never went through WIP, take sleepyheads covers, they never went through WIP but theres a couple of them that are well worth nominating.

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QUOTE (easylife @ Jan 6 2013, 10:06 PM) *
Got to agree with JR


Never thought I'd hear that coming from you! sponge1.gif Worthy of a siggy, almost winking.gif


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post Jan 7 2013, 08:33 AM
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So...COTY noms open somewhere or not yet?

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