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post Feb 24 2017, 08:41 AM
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Twice (2 times) I have uploaded my "Person of Interest" box covers Volume 1 and 2 only to find them missing.
This series has 27 cd's for seasons 1 thru 5 and I used 14cd cases to hold the disc's and keep to only 2 volumes.
Is that a problem?
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post Feb 24 2017, 09:08 AM
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Hi Chazz,

The covers have been sent back to approval for other moderators to take a look at them so we can get a second opinion.
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Hi Chazz. Unfortunately the dimensions are incorrect for the case types. The accepted dimensions were built up over the years to allow covers to be printed at exactly the correct size for their counterpart cases. The accepted dimensions can be found in the upload rules.

Your 14 disc Blu-ray covers are 3177 x 1735 and 3592x2175. Neither of these dimensions are accepted here. While we do allow for a few pixels in differentiation, both of these dimensions would not print correctly for a case that can hold 14 DVD's.

Can I ask where you got these dimensions from?

If you believe this decision is incorrect and that the dimensions are in fact correct, can you please let me know what case type you are using?


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Both box covers I uploaded, from my end, started out as 3295x2175. Do not understand why one would end up on your end with such a weird dimension.
The "site rules" article that dictates cover dimensions does not show anything for a 14cd case.
I did ask for the dimensions in one of the forums, cannot remember which, quite awhile back and never got an answer.
The supplier I purchased the 14cd cases from was kind enough to give me the artwork dimensions for their case, 3295x2175. Which fit perfectly.
If you have a dimension, I should use, please share and I will adjust my covers.
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3305 x 2175 is very close to what you have there Chazz and it is on the approved list.


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I did see that but because it was not clear how many dvd's the case held I did my own calculations based on the info from mfgr. And came up with a slightly different spine width.

Info from manufacturer for 14cd case.
This case is almost 3 1/4 times as thick as a standard DVD case Accommodates up to 14 discs Has a clear outer plastic "full wrap" to hold artwork Utilizes a push hub to hold discs Case color is black Also holds standard size CD media as well. Dimensions: External: 135.00 x 190.00 x 45.00mm Inches: 5 3/8" x 7 1/2" x 1 3/4" Spine: 45.00mm (1 3/4 inches) .


My calculations: 1535 +225+1535=3295

No problem I will adjust my case size to yours.

Could you give me the formula you use to calculate spine. For future use.
The front and back widths are always the same and only the spine width makes the difference for case width.

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The thing is your size is only very slightly difference from the size that is already accepted.

You do realize we are only taking about 10 pixels right?

At 300 pixels per inch that's .033 of an inch which is not even a whole mm it's like .8 of a mm most can't cut that straight.

Was our number calculated based on "your case" probably not, will it work yes it will.

Short version I don't think you did the math wrong, I just think you are not looking at this objectively for what it is, that being simply it's an extremely tiny difference which will not affect fit at all.


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No it does not affect the fit...............but..................the covers were in fact rejected, so it must have meant a whole lot to someone.

I will resize my cases the 10 pixels to avoid this situation in the future.

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A 45mm spine (outside size which is what the MFG specs) is about 44mm under the sleeve this works out to about 520px @300dpi for the spine.

So with a front and back at the standard size = 1535 + 520 + 1535 or 3590px wide and 2175px tall @300dpi.

1mm = about 11.818181818182px it's not and exact conversion as you are dealing with 300dpi or dots per inch (or pixels per inch) but since you can't split pixels it's best to let Photoshop do the calculations ie enter the correct size as mm in the file>new window rather than pixels and PS will get it right.

That said I'm adding a 14 disc case to the site based on the numbers I found for a 14 Disc case, this means your cover is going to be way off now.

Not sure where you got the 225px spine from for 45mm but none the less here is what I found, I think this is your case:
Attached File  14Disc.jpg ( 91.28K ) Number of downloads: 0


If I use 44mm as the spine (per above reason) and 184mm which is a standard DVD sleeve insert height in Photoshop to create a image:
Attached File  PS_Size_mm.jpg ( 95.7K ) Number of downloads: 0


Then if I look the same thing in Photoshop as pixels:
Attached File  PS_Size_px.jpg ( 94.69K ) Number of downloads: 0


This is letting Photoshop do the math.


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OK bud a new size has been created for this 14 Disc Multi Case for 3590 X 2175 (520 spine) so it will be accepted.

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Here is a jpg with guides for the spine.
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Thanks CT, for explaining it all and adding the 14 disc dimensions to the site thumb.gif


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Thanks,
My original covers measured 3592x2175 so I see no problem adjusting them 2 pixels.

They were in the rejected folder http://www.hirescovers.net/gallery/display...amp;sortcode=ta and
http://www.hirescovers.net/gallery/display...amp;sortcode=ta but I see they have been removed so I will re-upload soon.
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There's a reason why they have standard sizes, if they didn't, they would receive a variation of sizes, meaning the size would differ for the ones who print them out. I know it wasn't a lot different in this case, but that doesn't matter. The size is something you need to make sure is correct and not something the admins should "fix" for you. Just wanted to make that clear.


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Yo, I didn't even read this, but I guess from the title it might be interesting
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You have the nerve to lecture me when the fact is, I was the one to request a 14cd case be added to the list in the first place.
The only difference was that I had a 522 dpi spine and Ctaulbee came up with a 520 dpi spine.

Below is a copy of the PM with Bazzah for your information:

Hi buddy. I have done some research on 14 disc DVD covers, and discussed it with Ctaulbee (our coder and admin). He has made an update for you in your original thread, which will hopefully clarify everything
http://www.hirescovers.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=21731

This is what I submitted
http://www.hirescovers.net/gallery/display...amp;sortcode=ta
http://www.hirescovers.net/gallery/display...amp;sortcode=ta
A 14cd case is not listed in your "Site Rules" so It was rejected by sauron and then by you.
Is it possible for you to add a 14cd case to the list? Otherwise these covers will never be accepted on this site.
In my quest for saving shelf space I do have 14cd box covers for other series and plan on more in the future.

Dude, I'm just saying, "we" the creators have to have our dimensions correct. It's not an admins job to resize it or approve even if it's just 0,1 pixels wrong.
Why are you being so hostile?


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Why?
1. My 14cd cover was rejected because it was not on the list. No problem.
2. I requested that a 14cd cover be added to the list.
3. It was added and I agreed to adjust my covers 2 pixels to conform to the new 14cd cover on the list.
4. Subject was basically closed, done, finished, with every one in agreement.

Then, for whatever reason, you felt you had to jump in with your little unneeded lecture.
That is why I was rude to you in what I thought was a PM (private message).

I agree we need a standard. That is why I asked for the 14cd cover in the first place.

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